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nuclear power plant the world became much more concerned with nuclear safety germany human decided to phase out its nuclear power facilities long before leading countries including russia had joined forces to work on a safer and cleaner sustainable source of energy known as nuclear fusion the project is called i t e r and although one feasible in the beginning the reactor that could finally generate butin energy is being built in from. the our director general of some of the jima says the project is a gateway to the industrial use of thermo nuclear energy. mr jim thank you very much for being with us i'm very happy to come here ok well first of all i wanted to to start talking about about the project that you're working out which which is pretty unique well. we know that nuclear fusion
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that you're working with now was used in nuclear weapons like half a century ago well while the nuclear bombs it was used already so so what so what so many what's so unique about about using it in a reactor what you're doing. it's not christian. some time ask. and you're talking about this year with hydrogen bomb. and our objective by the project is purely. for usage to get more throat the source of. so. unfortunate three. hundred. it was sold to just after the fake account but century mechanism
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is the future. some of the. other thing about. my going to confusion based on very very different make make sense so the principle of work is different than the hydrogen bomb so it is yet another question another question from light from the man in the street and although fusion power is nothing new as you say for many ordinary people it's a little bit of like a science fiction yes how do they treat your e.-tec project they afraid. like you know like people were afraid when they built the seven. large hadron collider yes they also afraid that they said it will be the end of the world i'll go in front of you know i have your home planet. the fusion research of us the
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crossfire in nineteen fifty three in ginevra. conference and immediately after the piece reduces your future and i just started but that's the time it was the experiment and the theory on this tabletop device just smaller device and it was a dream. in the past but now with. a future energy we are trying to demonstrate by the time the experimenter of someone nuclear fusion. but is. trying to demonstrate its future is not a dream. but really come with a target but can people be afraid of that reality can be they be afraid when they hear the word experiment with nuclear power they say we don't want to be a part of that experiment. does this happen. for you mentioned.
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that. some thought that it had. smaller brock for is made. and the principle of based on the time. most beautiful full meter people say he and we see square so. you can a few journey is that the action to write. like hydrogen. sure's and become head you and in this case according to the einstein's of all and we call it equal or mc square with a mass and see the light there is still a huge amount of energy the produced there for mechanism is very clear the point is not the you know the mechanism is clear but. to use it as you said in peaceful
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means just to release the energy is a bomb but to use it in peaceful means means to tame the senate is like to take a wild animal and bring him to the surface yes and tell you was it was it hard to do that was it a difficult problem. you know more. the act the action fusion the action we use one word addition of that the coulter or nuclear fusion so the t.v. car explanation to you is hugh really invent three. of his the core of which future. the actor is only one. so the future inventor is very small this is big difference from fission the act in the case of fisher in the act several hundred homes of would any more prove
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few very insides of that he acted so wanted to become uncontrollable then for human like occidental but in the case of fusion fire we say the fusion does the thing through insecurity say things sure invent three so hydrogen isotope deuterium that the then only the octane what the idea and also the isotope of hydrogen we should be careful since just a meet bed they did a show but we already they would opt. safe safe hundred technology so. deuterium sure where you could this only one good arm its corresponding to about eight tome of petre you saw the energy inventor it's very small therefore its very very easy to control if
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something happen and why terrorist attack leaks three in case of fire or course and three hume xstrata but they do they they do your. impact to the people in your by is all. background radiation so this is very important very well radiation level isn't low. it's very wroth so we are leaving it's not dangerous you know it's just. i think that what you're saying it's probably true and the proof is that the french authorities recently gave you the permission oh yes inability to build the comeback in the south of france was it was a difficult to persuade the french to get this shit. yes we had we we in pretty. back fired like this and more than three years it is
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a very it and the french has a very very advanced streak too and you create a system so according to jesus and you create all system of our fire was a body too and the important is. how to. variate it by public peace for so it is called. public inquiry and the french will surratt the organized special commission. and this commission last summer. made a public inquiry and more than several hundred thousand of questions and we i'm sorry what did you will sorry why did you select france because because france is always been a pioneer in nuclear technology is that the reason yes i think saws since for i say
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i think saw it for a long time europe and japan competed to and supported france. china and the the project the tax it cost over twenty billion u.s. dollars right. thing is it is it raised money or is the taxpayers' money on a tax preparation saw i have we have a large responsibility to the taxpayer and just for that but. the twenty billion dollars so it depends on how much i want each member invest. you're a pretty the horse to cost a member the european union is this more than about a half yes forty five policy here forty five in the european parliament cap the coast it is six point six video you saw.
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it's the other member of the budget system and i view them as if i'm not mistaken or india japan china russia south korea and the united states and japan. and japan yes yes yes and russia and they all pay about nine percent of the yes correct three nine point one percent do what do they get in exchange for that you would know what will russia get. yes government budget and has their responsibility for to secure the budget. and very important point so the order over the interdiction of property achieved the by the project unanimous it is shared by seven members for i mention members europe priests twenty three countries so usually we use member so the six member pay nine point two why basant take everything.
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every this act says our son will more time and nuclear scientist from japan who is working on the one of the most modern nuclear projects and the south koreans who continue this interview in less than a minute so stay with us. i'm here with some investors from england. i'm here to show you a client morsel by poverty in this area any known jewish but. not yet no exception to take him to the state solution ok let me talk to you both about your so beautiful all of us in our global. city.
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thank. you. thanks.
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welcome back to spotlight time now going over and just a reminder that my guest on the show today is our sound more mataji my nuclear scientist from japan who is working on a and most recent nuclear project in the
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south of france actually it's a great new nuclear power plant mr watt as you well we we talked about about the funding half the project that it's a joint project of the european union and a couple of other countries including your country russia united states according to european media some big names in physics including my satoshi. he's the japanese nobel prize winner in the basics yes they do they criticize the attack and they say that it's just a waste of money as the prize you have is too costly and unstable well why do they call it unstable why they call it unusable how can you persuade these people to well to to change their mind god. is a famous scientist and. yeah his. new toy from the sun so i mean this year for as you mentioned not stay
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over. before either one is a show was. created two thousand and seven more than ten years. i asked for then there was a sham of the project cost or size or the final it is site selection therefore i guess i did not qualify. and that is a point to mention not sterile but already in coverage cost reduction stuff that. i think. come back to the light truck and are now trying to increase. its barest to god well as you remember the true novel disaster and it led to years of public debate of public opposition to nuclear programs the focus
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humor tragedy in japan intensify the negative feeling great and well a spotlight the limits the media has more so that. you can the power plants exist only in thirty countries of the world forty five more states want to join the club well some of the current members have announced they are leaving the most controversial of all types of energy nuclear power has always been high on the political agenda it's not that easy for all those who make is to reject something which is so many advantages despite the potential risks nuclear power is more eco friendly than oil and gas with low carbon dioxide emissions and it's also cheaper than hydrocarbons besides global humoring you and reserve for much longer than oil and gas around six hundred mo here is to do ninety eighty six troll nobody's asked to show how dangerous the piece who adam can be. human error was the cause of that
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accident at fukushima the possibility of human error was almost totally ruled out what no one expected were not quake and tsunami hit in almost simultaneously besides fifty. an accident occurred at power plants across the world in between true nobile and fukushima they weren't much spoken about as they did not cause casualties. and after fukushima people all over the world went onto the streets to protest nuclear iran aegean according to the french atomic energy commission research no technical innovation can only manage the risk of human error in nuclear plant operation a team of scientists from the massachusetts institute of technology came up with an estimate that given the expected growth of nuclear power up to the year two thousand and fifty five at least three serious nuclear power accidents would be expected in that period. well what you
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agree to that a survey sion of mit because this is a respected institution so they predict three major nuclear accidents in the near future would you think that will happen or usually here. so as i mentioned surveying the mechanism of yours or it's a different well yeah well this is very interesting if i can ask you to explain to the viewers. make it easy the principle difference between fusion and fission what why is fusion safer yes-s. in this movie. so many careers yet are shown to have in the case of fusion we need to not use rainier so the future amount of food in your sure does not exist. for so you don't use radioactive materials as. the source of energy like rain you work in response and
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we need to use richer. so. it's not instead you're acting with. but never a. video activities and also only life high they do octave wist. is not produced by fusion and hugh said that this is what you're doing now is an experiment but do you think that in the future if we continue predictions in the do you think that fusion power should replace the usual atomic energy. well yes that to depend on the success will be the project so it's easy to decide but if mystical shiba is mistaken then you will succeed right sometime sometime sometime you know but for as a real. thing in the history he also mentioned the very
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very. how when s. or with the creature so one gram of three to him caving more the. same to sell it and people like that in my memory this is absolutely not correct but still i know i understand you're a patriot of your project but everything has disadvantages value lynch and the disadvantage is the weak point of your project which you still have to work. there are several foster war fusion was modish card to fission so it too said long time. from nine hundred fifty eight after this yes ok sure and already. almost sixty years passed and now we're teaching to the goal of the most rating five hundred megawatts put so this body you hope five hundred some are is large enough to ask. poverty people or government to
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decide to utilize. or not so i believe it's two or three members from seven members we just decide to construct next to them and another point. since few joints very difficult and also a lot of components of our conduct then mongan it back in best or that region one hundred system like that so more complicated system and. therefore the we. needs to spend more for it to reduce the cost of meissen so it'd be pretty meant that the in the next step after i eat a project after the fukushima incident which was the latest big new to the incident well the nuclear power fell into disgrace around the world people became afraid of
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it and you understand that well it suddenly occurred to me that. did it help you get it promotes a fusion i mean do people understand that it's something different from the plant or on the other had people say i don't know if this is atomic energy this is bad i mean did it help you wear or not wear or did it create additional additional problems for promoting a project i think the people understanding or here's your own is increasing i think grocery this is evidence you can buy to me to just. talking about the future i think the decision for me is very encouraging but it's gradually increasing but that takes some time. but how much long will it take to make fusion power commercial as far as i understand your project is not in
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it's not going to be commercial yet yes our project never produce electricity only if someone output five hundred megawatts so that is the bare important point and. we really have the most read five hundred megawatt after the two thousand and twenty seven and the must be completed two thousand and twenty so soon and after the most rating five hundred at the mayo what we call its. ignition then we can move to the next. up there for. them a construction it takes ten years and before hand licensing process designs process all over the internet your property with the weight of a to be transferred to this crisis so my expectation is depend on the investment
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certainty about two thousand and forty to two thousand and fifty forty we can make electricity and send it directory to the electric grid but we're talking about alternative will today we talk about your fusion as an alternative source of any but can you personally. name some types of alternative energy that can be alternative to fusion in thirty and fifty years can that happen where you think there's no alternative to nuclear mask sort of alternative to fusion yes. like i mean you ever imagine what your window or whatever you are you have. to have several options to have it on the sea and heresy and as your system saw.
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i hope to contribute it one over there big option and to make decisions as you saw the truest we need to demonstrate before any expected crisis come true joy is possible if once crisis camp it's too rate to develop so ether is very important through all we can do to do more three and decided to decide this year i said thank you for your area and they were there match and just to remind you that my guest on the share was just some moments i dream of the director j. . on the nuclear project and that's it for now from all of us here spotlight we'll be back with more until then stay on r.t. and take care. thank you very much as i got my ticket.
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